The magical input device that only works with CRTs
Unfortunately VICE only supports 2 types of lightguns, the "Stack light rifle" and the "Magnum light phaser". The gun that is not supported is the "Gun stick", which is a pitty because the "Gun stick" games are very nice looking and playable games (although not many C64 games exist for it). This is because the "Gun stick" doesn't behave like a regular C64 lightgun since it doesn't use the lightgun/pen input pin on the joystick port for detecting the position you are aiming at. But instead behaves more like the famous a Nintendo zapper.
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This lightgun may not look as real as the famous gun included in the "Magnavox Odyssey Shooting Gallery" pack, but it sure looks nice. It has games for the C64 and the VIC20. And because of the long barrel it claims to be a very accurate gun. In reality there are much more factors that come into play, but at the time it seemed to work pretty well. Considering the difficulty of some of the available games you'll certainly need that accuracy. The most interesting part of the Stack light rifle (SLR for short) is the ability to configure it to your own taste depending on the extras supplied with it. If you wish you can use it with or without the shoulder piece or without the barrel, just remove them and you suddenly have a decent looking handgun instead of a rifle. There were also versions with a scope and an even longer barrel. The gun really feels comfortable when holding it and contributes largely to the gameplay. This gun design also exists under different names (clones) for different systems. At the bottom of this page you'll see that I modifed some cheap SLR clone into a more versatile lightgun for the C64.
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The "Magnum light phaser" lightgun is a less unique design and the same pin and signal definitions can be found in other compatible lightguns that are sold under a different name. Simply because this is the most common type the list of games for this system is the longest.
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This lightgun is from a Spanish company (MHT Ingenieros), the strangest things about this gun are that it uses batteries and that it DOES NOT connect to the lightpen input of the Commodore computer. It connects to the DOWN connection of the joystick port. This makes it more difficult for the computer to detect but in pratice it seems to work. The bennefit of this setup is that you can connect 2 of these guns to a C64. Normally the C64 supports only one lightgun because it has only one lightpen input. But since this gun does not require the use of the lightpen input multiple guns can be connected to the computer. For other platforms there were multiple games available, but for the C64 it appears to be only 2. The image shown here is not an advertisement for the C64 but most likely for the spectrum.
Here you'll find an overview of the games made for the C64 and for which lightgun system they were intended. In the table are -/+ used. Only where a '+' is shown in the table, the device is supported by that game.
| Name | Stack light rifle | Magnum light phaser | Gun stick | Screenshot | Screenshot |
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| Archery (preview: Joystick only) download |
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| Army days download |
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| Baby blues download |
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| Blaze out download |
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Blaze out is a collection of certain levels of well known (non lightgun) games: Robocop, Combat school, Hyper sports (skeet shoot), Platoon, Rambo III These levels were converted to lightgun games and combined into a single game. So you can't just play Rambo-III, you first have to beat the games before it. Which is pretty difficult. For instance most people could not get past the 1st level "Robocop". But it can be done, if you know this trick: Don't look at the targets LOOK AT YOUR GAUGES. Why you would ask. Well... the gun of Robocop isn't a single shot gun, it is a fully automatic machine gun with unlimitted ammo! Aim your crosshair to the center of the screen at shoulder height of the bad guy. Then continuously press the trigger, the bad guy will walk into your gun and the score will increase, when the hostage is hit, release the trigger immediately! When the hostage is out of range repeat the process, the bad guy will take hits until a score of 4500 has been reached. For everyone who isn't such a good player but want so see how the game plays. GP GarethG has put a video online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD8Esq_TZvU |
Level 1: Robocop ![]() Level 2: Combat school ![]() Level 3: Hyper sports ![]() Level 4: Platoon ![]() Level 5: Rambo III
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| Big game safari | * | - | - | no screenshot available | I'm still searching for this game, if you have it or know of a link for more information about it then please contact me. |
| Cosmic commando download |
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| Cosmic storm download |
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| Crowshoot | * | - | - | no screenshot available | I'm still searching for this game, if you have it or know of a link for more information about it then please contact me. |
| Duck hunt download |
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| Escape from Alcatraz download |
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| Escape from Alcatraz (2026) download |
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| Gangster download |
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| Ghost town download |
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| Glorious twelth download |
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| GooseBusters download |
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| Gunslinger download |
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| High noon shootout download |
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| Hit the buttons download |
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| Indian Attack download |
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| Mike Gunner download |
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| Operation thunderbolt download |
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| Operation wolf download |
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| Penitentiary | * | - | - | no screenshot available | This game was never released for more information visit the "games that weren't" website https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/gtw64/penitentiary/ |
| Raid on Romaro | * | - | - | no screenshot available | This game was never released for more information visit the "games that weren't" website https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/gtw64/raid-on-romaro/ |
| Rats and cats download |
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| Shootin' Putin download |
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| Shooting gallery download |
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| Smack a mole download |
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| Starbase defence download |
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| Target Plus download |
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| Thunder 4th | - | * | - | no screenshot available | I'm still searching for this game, if you have it or know of a link for more information about it then please contact me. |
| Time Traveller download |
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| Vengenance of Zeno | * | - | - | no screenshot available | This game was never released for more information visit the "games that weren't" website https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/gtw64/vengeance-of-zeno |
The chance that you own all original lightguns is very small, so in order to play all these games on your C64 you could consider to modify a lightgun. Not your best looking and perfectly functional one, but a gun that wasn't used otherwise, we don't want to destroy historical treasures, do we? But there is no problem modifying lightguns intended for another platform, the SEGA or NES perhaps (just joking, these are historical important too).
I had an unused gun that looked a lot like the Stack light rifle, but I'm sure that it wasn't because on the side there was written "Thundercolt". It also looks like the gun Audio Sonic, Hanimex and Roberts uses. Anywaythe text "Thundercolt" can't be clearly seen on the images I have of these systems, so I'm not sure to which game system my "stack light rifle look alike" gun belongs to. Anyway, I bought this gun on a yard-sale/flee-market many many years ago, it had no box or anything else. It was just the gun. I bought it with the intention to make it work on my C64, but it ended up in box and came out almost 10 years later. To be modified into the 3-in-1-gun. Which I modified a few years later to look like a Tommygun.
My intention was to create a circuit that makes it possible to build a gun that can be made to act as each of the 3 guns (Stack light rifle, Magnum light phaser, Gun stick). So that it would be possible to play all the games with only one type of gun. Wow! What a great idea... and only 30 years too late. click here for more information
If you happen to own a zapper (or maybe two) the "Zapper to Gunstick adapter" project made by Marco van Vlaanderen, might be of interest to you. Its a fun little DIY project that will allow you to play the gunstick based games in style. The shown images are a bit small, but you can click on the image to see them in full detail.
A device sometimes mistaken for a lightgun is the "gamma strike" package. This is a simple pellet gun (it shoot tiny balls) and a special target. The idea is that you shoot at the target, which has sensors that are connected to your computer. The computer keeps track of time and score in one game and in another game you need to shoot the target to defeat aliens. For a more detailed story behind this game visit the "Games that weren't" website: http://www.gamesthatwerent.com/gtw64/gamma-strike